Interview No. 1
Connor Abeles, Cab Ellis Band
Interviews by Sophie Abeles
Photos by Sophie Abeles
Edited by Ginny Keenan
Graphic Design by Anna Scola
Connor takes the stage at Baby’s All Right, sporting a piece of black fabric as a choker necklace, a black-and-white-checkered gingham shirt and scuba-diving wetsuit pants that he cut into shorts. “Nighttime OCD,” their set opener, begins and Connor’s eyes dart upward, his under-eyes lined with bright red pigment. His stare resembles that of an addict who’s just lost his latest fix to the wind.
“Wondering does this repetition get me anywhere — number 8 rhymes with great so that’s what I’m gonna BE.”
Screaming the last word, Connor smacks the microphone against his forehead and opens his eyes wide, jutting his jaw out and shaking his hips as though he’d just sat in a pile of fire ants. Some people laugh, others stare, transfixed by his uninhibited strangeness.
I sat down to interview Connor a few weeks prior to his Baby’s All Right show. We met at Marion Hopkinson playground, a park Connor frequents to write or think in his free time. The last time we visited the park was last summer, when I had moved to the city and had been sleeping on a blowup mattress on Connor’s bedroom floor. He was just starting to play venues regularly in the city.
Growing up, anyone could see you were a born performer.. From the talent shows we’d do as kids to making home videos with friends, you were always comfortable with, even excited by, being the center of attention. Do you feel most relaxed and free when you’re performing? What does it take to get to that point?
Typically I’m thinking about a lot the week before a show; I take it very seriously. The day before I go on, I’ll let anger pile up – like I’ll almost let bad things happen to me purposefully so I gather this wild momentum to use as fuel for the show. Performing is definitely a release for me – I’m not thinking at all when I’m on stage.
Right, to me, you’re a reserved, laid-back person, but on stage and as an artist, you’re this crazy, electric sensation. Talk more about your process behind-the-scenes.
When I first moved to the city, I used to go out to Randall’s Island Park alone at night and perform. I’d exercise first to tire myself out and then do an all-out run-through of my songs. The woman I was subletting from used to tell me not to go and to be careful because it was dangerous.. I thought to myself, people are probably more scared of me than I am of them! I’d be out there screaming and crying and singing – no matter what the weather was. It was a release for me and a great way to practice maintaining super high energy levels while performing.
Iggy Pop is a big source of inspiration for you as a performer. What about his stage presence stands out to you?
Yea, I watch old videos of his a lot — he performs like he’s attacking a shark. He’ll grab the microphone and throw it. It seems like any item in the room could be the vessel for him communicating and I find that really inspiring, his lack of fear on stage. I think those kinds of performances are rare nowadays, so I try to channel that sort of energy as much as I can.
If Iggy Pop were to show up at one of your shows, what impression would you want to leave him with?
I’d just want him to stay in the room. Anybody watching us, they can think whatever, but I want them to feel something..even if it’s disgust.
Some people would say the way you perform, the way you dress, the fans’ rowdiness – it detracts from the more important elements of your music like the lyrics or instrumentation. What would you say to them?
I don’t care. I think it’s valid but everyone is going to take away what they will. Some people will back away from the stage but there will be just as many standing right at the edge, ready to engage with us and the music in their own way.
What goes through your mind when you’re working your day job? You worked as a valet and a concierge in LA at Sunset Tower Hotel and now work as a barista at Ludlow Coffee Supply in NYC.
Everyone has to work those jobs at some point. It motivates you, fuels you even. I’ve spent so many years of my life looking out of windows or out at the street… just watching life pass by. I’ve built up so much anger and determination because of these boring jobs. At the end of the day, it’s helped my music.
How have these periods of watching and waiting helped you as an artist? How has it informed your songwriting?
A lot of the writers I love can describe what the house or park or restaurant looked like when they were sitting with the person they loved or friends or by themselves. Writing isn’t just about recording facts, it’s also about demonstrating the feelings you get from the world and people around you.
Do you have an all-time favorite writer or book?
My favorite and most recommended book is Letters To A Young Poet by Rainer Maria Rilke, a collection of ten letters written between 1902 and 1908 from Rilke to a cadet in the Austro-Hungarian army, Franz Xaver Kappus, who sought Rilke’s advice on writing poetry. This book changed my life.
I go places alone all the time to sit or eat or think and I often feel very distant from everyone. People nowadays kinda frown upon going places alone. Rilke taught me that this isolation is beneficial. The loneliness has helped me discover what is unresolved in my life, in love, in myself. He taught me it’s ok to live the questions … and that eventually the answers will come as a result.
Speaking of writing about love and life – the song “New York Time” off your latest album, The East Coast Hold On (2022), is about someone very close to you. Would you ever tell them the song was written about them?
Nah. Nah. I wouldn’t. If a song is for a person, just knowing that is good enough.
It’s a catharsis for you. So many of your songs are about letting people go.
Yea, letting people go, but also about words I never said. When I write songs, I won’t keep a line unless it evokes a visceral response – I cry a lot in this process because I think about what I could have said in a moment to help friends or family going through difficult times. At the end of the day, I hope my songs are an outlet for listeners, too, not just for me.
What do you love about being a musician?
The feeling of trying to capture a fleeting moment.. that’s what drives me and is what I love about being alive. The first time my life started to make sense was in college when I realized that music was what I wanted to do. Not that I understood it then or do anymore now, but there was a point when music started to have this effect on me and I couldn’t control it. Every single day, for years, music has been the thing that has gotten me up in the morning.
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